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Isn’t Sodomy Considered Perversion?

Two articles from the Kuwait Times crime pages, but a daily occurrence:

February 27, 2007
Kuwaiti boy Sodomized
A Kuwaiti living in the Jaber Al-Ali area recently filed a complaint that a man offered his younger brother a lift while he was walking in the Mubarak Al-Kabeer area. He said the man then drove into the desert where he sodomized the boy after threatening him with a knife and also shot nude pictures of him.

February 28, 2007
Bedoons, Kuwaitis scuffle over attempted ‘sodomy’
Kuwait: Two bedoons travelling in a car in Riqqa spotten an eleven-year-old Kuwaiti boy standing in front of his house, and decided to kidnap and sodomize him. One of them alighted and tried to force the boy to get inside the car, but the boy started screaming; alerting other boys in the neighborhood who wrestled with the bedoons and managed to pin them down until the police arrived. However, the boy’s father when informed on the situation along with his relatives rushed to the police station where they encountered the bedoons’ relatives. Both groups were then involved in a scuffle. The boy’s father then stabbed one of the bedoons several times. The victim had to be admitted to the intensive care unit at Adan hospital. Police arrested the boy’s father and referred him to the relevant authorities.

My comment and question: In our holy book, Jesus says that the very worst punishment in the afterlife is for anyone who harms one of the little ones, one of the “innocents,” who damages that innocence in any way. I am betting the Qu’ran says something similar. (I welcome your feedback on this, because I would like to know the sura’a.)

And aren’t Bedoon’s MORE religiously conservative than other Kuwaitis? How does this track?

In western culture, men who ‘bugger’ other men are considered less than manly. Is this not also true in Islam?

Is sodomy not considered a perversion in Islam?

What is the penalty for sodomy in Kuwait, and how is the penalty enforced?

February 28, 2007 - Posted by | Cross Cultural, ExPat Life, Family Issues, Health Issues, Hygiene, Kuwait, Living Conditions, Middle East, Social Issues, Spiritual

10 Comments »

  1. Hey there..

    Sodomy indeed is one of the major sins in Islam,
    Who ever commits Sodomy is Cursed by Allah,

    “So when Our Commandment came, We turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down, and rained on them stones of baked clay, in a well-arranged manner one after another; Marked from your Lord” [Hood 11:82-83].

    Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’”
    [al-A’raaf 7:80-81]

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, kill them, the one who does it and the one two whom it is done.” (Narrated by Ahmad, 2727;)

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “… cursed is the one who has intercourse with an animal, cursed is the one who does the action of the people of Loot.”
    (Narrated by Ahmad, 1878)

    Sodomy is of the worse sins in Islam no doubt, but its also a shame.. I dunno what Kuwait does about it though.

    peace.

    Comment by Al-Hanbali | February 28, 2007 | Reply

  2. Welcome Al-Hanbali, and thank you for helping out with specific verses about sodomy from the book and from tradition. I hope there is an exception made for the one who had sodomy done to him by force, and not by choice.

    What does the book say about the corruption of innocents? Isn’t that even worse?

    Comment by intlxpatr | February 28, 2007 | Reply

  3. thanx,,

    yes of course its different when someone is forced into anything, not just sodomy..

    yes there are verses about corruption in general..

    Verily those who love that (the crime of ) illegal sexual intercourse be propagated among those who beleive, will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows, and ye know not.(24:19)

    “But seek, with the (wealth) which Allah has bestowed on thee, the Home of the Hereafter, nor forget thy portion in this World: but do thou good, as Allah has been good to thee, and seek not (occasions for) mischief in the land: for Allah loves not those who do mischief.” (28:77)

    i know there are saying from the tradition i cant recall exactly same wording,, but if you teach something evil to some one,, or revive or inovate evil in among people then you pile sins as much as they have gathered from that specific sin without taking away any of there sins,, and simillarly with good deeds,,

    peace

    Comment by Al-Hanbali | February 28, 2007 | Reply

  4. Thank you, Al-Hanbali.

    I think Islam particularly values care of children, doesn’t it? Any verses on protecting children?

    Comment by intlxpatr | March 1, 2007 | Reply

  5. You are so inspiration… I have to write something about how Islam views children!

    Comment by 1001 Nights | March 3, 2007 | Reply

  6. correction: inspiration = inspirational

    Comment by 1001 Nights | March 3, 2007 | Reply

  7. 1001 – Please! thank you!

    Comment by intlxpatr | March 3, 2007 | Reply

  8. Have you ever read “The Seven Pillars of Wisdom” by T. E. Lawerence of Lawerence of Arabia fame? It’s set in WWI of course so it may be a bit dated, but it gives a good insight into the tribal Arab culture. A comment that awerence makes is the acceptance of homosexuality in a nomadic culture in which the men go out in the desert on long journeys and learn to rely on each other and that many “unions” of male companions were formed and that was completly acceptable to the rest of tribe.

    I was born and raised in Kuwait and lived there until I left in 1994 to come to the US. So I’ve seen some of the mores and traditions outlined in that book that still persist in modern day Arab culture. This sort of meshes with the op-ed you published in March about Arab males and power. While sodomy and homosexuality are indeed looked down upon in Islam, male power politics and the acceptance of homosexuality is very much a part of the culture. I remember attending several parties where there were more than one “flaming” Kuwaiti man there and no one batted an eye. The impression I got was the homosexual men had a place in the power politics in that they were abused and controlled by the others and their presence relieved the sexual repression that exists there.

    Sodomy and homosexuality are a lot more prevalent than you would think. Its just that no one talks about it.

    Comment by Jon | May 25, 2007 | Reply

  9. Thank you, Jon, for your thoughtful and insightful comment. You know, I have the 7 Pillars in my library, but have never read it. It would probably be a good thing for me to do. And what you said at the end . . . “but no one talks about it . . .” you can’t imagine how many times I have heard that since coming here.

    As I read yoru comment, I had a flash connection to the culture of a prison – where the homosexuality is the only kind of sex available, and to some extent, almost contractual.

    Here is what bothers me – abductions and rape. Rape of children, the innocent and their loss of innocence, total loss of power, not knowing if you will live through the ordeal, passing the child or woman or young man along to friends to be raped and raped again. . . these are crimes against our own humanity.

    Again, thanks for coming by and making such good points.

    Comment by intlxpatr | May 26, 2007 | Reply

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