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Rape in Kuwait – the flip side

By now you know a lot about who I am – what I laugh at, what I treasure, and what makes me break out in a storm of fury. Rape is one of those issues; the sheer entitlement that goes with stripping another human of choice and violating flesh as if the victim were nothing more than a piece of meat, it energizes me to a white rage, whether the victim is man, woman or child.

And then . . . and then . . . there are very strange cases of reported rapes in Kuwait that I have a hard time imagining exactly what happened here. I am not being flip, in a flippant sense; I am perplexed. We sometimes get so little of the story, and once you have a key piece of information – which we often never have – things make sense.

This is from today’s Kuwait Times:

Minor Raped
Police said a minor girl told Salhiya police that while she was sitting on the beach, a young man approached her and told her that he belonged to a well-known family. He then took her to an apartment in Sharq where he raped her before returning her to the same area. Later, another man approached her and took her to another apartment and raped her as well. She provided police with their mobile phone numbers. The case is under investigation.

Does this not sound peculiar to you? For one thing, is she sitting alone on the beach? Does she know these men? She goes with them – alone? By choice? Twice, with two different men? They give her their phone numbers?? To me, there is a lot of information missing in this report. It sounds like a very strange case of rape. I almost wonder if the minor has a mental incapacity, but it doesn’t say that.

Man, Woman arrested
A police patrol traveling in Sulaibiya recently suspected a young man and woman as they were driving. (Note to self: remind Kuwait Times that you do not use “Police suspected. . ” without specifying which behavior they found suspicious) Police asked to see their civil IDs and discovered that the young woman had run away from home one month ago. During interrogation, she confessed that the man and his three friends had raped her several times in a flat. The case is under investigation.

The following one is not about rape (nor am I sure the above cases are about rape) but is a case that makes you go “hmm. . .. what??”

Runaway Woman
A Filipina woman recently told Sulaibikhat police that she abandoned her sponsor’s home in Bneid Al-Gar before going to her Pakistani friend’s flat in Doha. Two months later, the woman became pregnant. She then reported the matter to the police.

She went to the police and said “I am a runaway, and I am pregnant” knowing she will be charged with absconding AND with immorality, maybe adultery? Knowing she will go to jail? What, exactly, is she hoping to gain? What is she reporting?

The crime news is full of mysterious glimpses, and we rarely know the rest of the story.

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April 14, 2009 - Posted by | Community, Crime, Cross Cultural, Detective/Mystery, ExPat Life, Family Issues, Kuwait, Living Conditions, News, Random Musings

21 Comments »

  1. This only reflects one thing, either the editors are crap or they are bought.

    ~ Soul

    Comment by Soul | April 14, 2009 | Reply

  2. πŸ™‚ that did bring a smile!
    mebe just gap fillers!!

    Comment by onlooker | April 14, 2009 | Reply

  3. LOL @ Soul

    The first girl was asking for it! Whatta…..!

    Comment by Ansam | April 14, 2009 | Reply

  4. intlxpatr

    there is a law in q8 that, if someone is accused of adultry, they have one of two choises, either marrying the girl/woman and stay married to her for a number of years or face a jail sentence…

    What happens is, and im not saying all cases out there are like that, sometimes someone would fabricate evidence or claim to be raped and/or commiting adultrey just to force the boyfriend or a man to marry her… i guess thats what the philipino was doing, trying to force the pakistani man to get married to her and take responsibility for his child…

    Comment by Daddy's Girl | April 14, 2009 | Reply

    • Sure, sounds plausable. A woman who is the weaker of the two earthen vessels, tricks a man, who is stronger and could beat her repeatedly under safty of the law, to be forced to be with her for the rest of his life. I guess she knows (like you) that men forced to live with a woman they don’t love or respect make wonderful husbands.
      The vocie of reason that has led us into hell…
      Don’t you just love it when someone finally makes since out of complete trash!!?

      Comment by Que | May 12, 2009 | Reply

  5. Ahhh. . . .thanks, Daddy’s Girl, that makes sense. Can you make any sense out of the first case?

    Comment by intlxpatr | April 14, 2009 | Reply

  6. That’s a very stupid law (force to marry or jail)
    Just makes us realize more what a mess humans can do when they try to make up laws for themselves (see how it got abused).

    Let them restore the God commanded punishment law of 70 lashes, and show me how many women would resort to this trick, and how many will risk fornication given the consequences!!

    Comment by lashout | April 14, 2009 | Reply

  7. Well in the first case, ther girl is supposesd to be in distress after the first rape right?

    so what was she doing going to the beach? after being raped? to gather her thoughts?!?!?!??!??

    Come ON!

    the girl would not go with her own legs to the police and confess unless she had something in mind. I think that law can be applied to her as well, as in yes one of them will marry her if the accusation against him proves to be right… especially that there is no evidence it was rape against her will but she did confess there had been adultry… and the foreinsic examiner can confirm that…

    Comment by Daddy's Girl | April 14, 2009 | Reply

  8. It is known among young Kuwaiti men that there are plenty of prostitutes out there who will do anything, then increase the price and claim rape if the price isn’t met, or say they were raped in hopes that the rapist will be forced to marry them (this is so retarded, something in me rebels at typing that phrase, but there you have it). Young, stupid men hire girls to service them, then act all shocked that the prostitute doesn’t have the best of morals sometimes and have their own agenda. That’s what happens when you exploit someone who is poor…eventually, they get sick of being exploited, and the smart ones find a way to turn the situation to their advantage. With her being a minor, and just a poor girl sitting on the beach, but of course noone would suspect that SHE might have an ulterior motive πŸ˜‰ You can’t have a culture say over and over that a girl needs protecting, is to be sheltered, etc., and then claim that that devious little girl outsmarted you big strong man you. πŸ™‚ So they have to either admit she’s a hooker and they were sinning or marry her or pay her price. hilarious. Can you imagine johns in the states being forced to marry their hooker when she decided the price wasn’t high enough? πŸ™‚

    Comment by soupprincess | April 14, 2009 | Reply

  9. these reports are highly suspicious.. I mean why would a young woman go back to the beach after being “raped” ? maybe she needed a breath of fresh air ?
    In some of the other newspaper reports its obvious that there was consensual sex and later maybe due to a disagreement the woman files a rape case against the guy.

    Comment by Mathai | April 15, 2009 | Reply

  10. Lashout – I agree, forcing a rape victim to marry her rapist is not only stupid, but also CRUEL. Oh yeh, and let’s lash the women. Right.

    While I suspect the above instances are consensual, let’s put the lashes on the men, instead of the women, those who are seeking the illicit services. The system you recommend punishes women disproportionately to men. Isn’t it the law that adulterers are stoned, under the system you recommend? And it seems to me that a man is buried up to his waist, and if he gets free, it is the will of God that he go free. A woman is buried up to her neck, right? I suppose, if she were able to get free, she would still be stoned to death. Nice.

    Daddy’s Girl – First, it sounds to me like the woman is not quite right, not in her full mind. Second, perhaps it is rape because of her age – it says she is a minor, and it can be rape if the woman is underage, even if it is consensual – at least in our system, that is called statutory rape. I just wish the information gave us a more clear picture of what was going on.

    Soupprincess – Very interesting. And yes, the thought of Johns being forced to marry – and support – a hooker has some humorous side effects, like how would his family accept the woman? What if he has another wife already? You present a very intriguing scenario . . .

    Mathai – Yeh . . . ummm . . . two different guys? It is a very very strange report, isn’t it?

    Comment by intlxpatr | April 15, 2009 | Reply

  11. Sorry don’t read news papers anymore … The crime section sucks !

    Comment by Grey | April 15, 2009 | Reply

  12. Wait was there a rape ?

    Comment by Grey | April 15, 2009 | Reply

  13. Grey – Well, in this case, I am not sure. There seems to have been plenty of sex, but I am wondering how rape is defined in Kuwait? I think of rape as a forcible violation; it doesn’t have to be violent, a threat is enough. For example, I know of a case where a woman was forced to have sex because the men were holding her young sister. They told her that she had to cooperate, or they would rape her younger sister. If she cooperated, they wouldn’t. The cool headed young woman set some limits, cooperated, and reported the men as soon as they got free. They were booked, charged, but never prosecuted.

    Comment by intlxpatr | April 15, 2009 | Reply

  14. I never read the crime section, it’s depressing and some of it sound made up. I have alot of Liberal guilt and I try to avoid these kind of news, and your blog is full of them πŸ™‚

    Comment by AMD | April 16, 2009 | Reply

  15. We are complex creatures, AMD. Reading the news is who I am . . . Most of the work I have done in my life is with people, many of whom make poor choices, over and over again. I had to learn to separate myself from their choices, while still hanging on to my compassion. It is a very delicate and challenging balance. I don’t always make it.

    “some of it sounds made up” Here is the truth, AMD, when you work with people, very little surprises you after a while.

    Comment by intlxpatr | April 16, 2009 | Reply

  16. Agree with you Intlxpatr, on the very little surprising part..

    And I should undeniably accept the fact of your honesty in not striking the delicate balance most of the time.

    The compassion puts the reason into logical fallacy.

    It would be better rephrased as – “The compassion tests the reason”

    ~ Soul

    Comment by Soul | April 17, 2009 | Reply

  17. I was lucky, Soul, I worked several times for the Red Cross; the ultimate guideline was “error on the side of compassion.”

    Working with desperate people, people who will lie, cheat and forge death certificates – it tests more than your reason. It severely tests your capacity for compassion. Believe me, I was on my knees every day praying that my heart would not harden.

    So no, compassion did not test the reason – human nature at its worst, tests compassion.

    I have worked as an advocate with rape victims, and yet – the above cases have elements which test my compassion.

    Comment by intlxpatr | April 17, 2009 | Reply

  18. That is right.

    What motivates you to do what you are doing.. is probably compassion.

    And that motivational factor will question your reason, to stick around or to quit.

    I may not exactly understand the plight of your heart, but I can say, you have got a big one with loads of compassion in it.

    ~ Soul

    Comment by Soul | April 17, 2009 | Reply

  19. You are too kind. πŸ™‚

    Comment by intlxpatr | April 17, 2009 | Reply

  20. I am already flattered.

    ~ Soul

    Comment by Soul | April 17, 2009 | Reply


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