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Answered Prayer: Please Lord, Don’t Let it be a Muslim

In the aftermath of the horrific events in Norway, I was praying along with all my immigrant friends – “Please, Lord, don’t let it be a Muslim.” It wasn’t. Just another hater, this one has blue eyes and blonde hair and seems to be a Christian conservative. This one hates for his own reasons. It doesn’t matter much what those reasons are, does it, to the grieving families whose children were slaughtered, or the grieving nations whose peace is destroyed?

From AOL/Huffington Post:

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik, according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect’s name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they’ve linked the youth camp shooting and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to “right-wing circles” in Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.” The tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views. He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and stock analysis as interests.

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July 23, 2011 - Posted by | Character, Counter-terrorism, Crime, Cross Cultural, ExPat Life, Interconnected, Political Issues, Social Issues

18 Comments »

  1. so pathetic how people always think that muslims are the reason behind all the terror attacks in the world… with all my respect it’s “so childish”!

    Comment by M's blackboard | July 23, 2011 | Reply

  2. It’s ignorance, M. This post is a reference to a news program on how Muslims in America react when an incident like Oslo occurs.

    Blaming behavior seems to be the nature of man, doesn’t it? When I was living in Qatar and Kuwait, there were always conspiracy theories, usually having to do with how the USA controls Israel, and we are behind almost every thing. Right.

    Comment by intlxpatr | July 23, 2011 | Reply

  3. The sad thing is that it doesn’t matter if it wasn’t a muslim who did the killings, not to the media anyway, it only matters when its done by a muslim.

    Comment by Yousef | July 23, 2011 | Reply

  4. So Sad. I am really upset that there are people who have the right to kill innocent.!!!

    Comment by Hayfa Al Mughni | July 23, 2011 | Reply

  5. It’s clearly an act of the idle mind; a devil’s workshop. And last I checked with Homeland Security the devil was without a religion.

    Comment by Musings from Altamount Rd. | July 24, 2011 | Reply

  6. Yousef – we have a war in our history, the Spanish-American war, where everyone got all riled up about the explosion of a pre-battleship in Havana, and blamed it on Spain. More recent research indicated it was probably a boiler explosion or an explosion in the coal bunker, so the erroneous belief helped bring about a war in which many lives were lost on both sides. Man, especially in mobs, just isn’t a rational thinker. It’s always easier when we have someone to blame. (Google ‘Remember the Maine!’ for more information on the Spanish-American War)

    Comment by intlxpatr | July 24, 2011 | Reply

  7. Hayfa, nobody has that right. Nobody. It breaks my heart to think of children, even babies, being killed, but in Pensacola, sometimes it is the parents who kill their own children, sometimes just for crying too much. :-( But for this gunman in Norway, there must have been something that made him target the kids in the camp. Imagine, the killing went on and on. Something was driving that man.

    Comment by intlxpatr | July 24, 2011 | Reply

  8. Hi BL. I agree – the devil tempts us all, no matter what our religion. I guess what bugs me more and more is how we use God to justify the ‘just war.’

    Comment by intlxpatr | July 24, 2011 | Reply

  9. Oppression took the best of us, Muslims. We get a sigh of relief knowing that this wasn’t caused by a muslim yet we fail to even sympathize with the whole situation. :(

    Comment by macaholiq8 | July 24, 2011 | Reply

    • “yet we fail to even sympathize with the whole situation”?. On whose behalf are you talking ? On your name or “Muslims” in general ? With all due respect, I find it pretty pretentious from whomever you might be to generalize easily on “Muslims” feelings. Or is it that “Muslims” should take an outspoken stand condemning the killings so to prove they relate to losses of their neighbours, especially when the committed crime is related to Muslim hatred feelings? Killing one innocent soul is like killing the entire humanity and saving one soul is like saving the entire humanity in Islam. So let me just assure you that any Muslim believer sincerely feels and grieves loss of life whether it is in Norway, Pakistan or Nigeria.

      Comment by Mohammed | July 31, 2011 | Reply

      • Mohammed, he was speaking for a shared experience. We speak freely here, and we assume the best intentions. Ramadan Mubarak, Mohammed.

        Comment by intlxpatr | August 1, 2011

  10. Is that true, Mac? Are you saying Kuwaitis are not feeling any sympathy for the Norwegians? I cannot imagine.

    Comment by intlxpatr | July 24, 2011 | Reply

  11. Not Kuwaitis, muslims in general. Not all of them of course but a good percentage of them including myself, unfortunately, would be more concerned whether the one behind any act of terrorism is muslim. What I’m trying to point out is that due to world oppression towards muslims we started to divert our thoughts on whether or not it’s related to Islam, then and only if it has nothing to do with us, we start sympathizing with others.

    Comment by macaholiq8 | July 24, 2011 | Reply

  12. What has happened in Norway is so tragic – the fact that yet again the ideas of someone fueled by lack of acceptance has literally triggered so many deaths. I know that regardless of who was behind the shootings, it is indeed a tragedy … but there is also a reality to face. I understand the silent prayer – I hope he isn’t a Muslim. Islam and Muslims are still ‘mystical’ terms and what they stand for is perpetuated by media coverage. So when someone who claims he is Muslim is behind an attack, the animosity seems to spread to the religion and other Muslims as well. Yes, people who claim they are Muslim have been responsible for terrible, terrible events – and I am disgusted by them, but it should not unravel into a blanket hatred/suspicion of all Muslims. I can hardly imagine extra security checks being put in place on all Norwegians now – let alone blond haired, blue-eyed people … but that is what happened to Muslims in the past. As a Muslim and someone who has been discriminated against because of my race/religion, I am relieved that it was not a Muslim who was behind these attacks, but I am deeply saddened that the attacks happened at all. Very sad.

    Comment by PlumPetals | July 25, 2011 | Reply

  13. Intlxpatr :

    Norway is a beautiful country , the Norwegians are really nice people and Oslo is a lovely city ,yet out of nowhere this nut case came and shattered the peace and tranquility of that countriy and caused unbelievable suffering to its people .

    Comment by daggero | July 25, 2011 | Reply

  14. Mac, OK, now I understand what you are saying. Thank you for clarifying. I suspect we are all vulnerable in that same way.

    Plum Petals, I agree with you and I am sorry to tell you in the midst of this serious conversation, I laughed out loud at the idea of Homeland Security putting into effect a special watch on all blonde-blue-eyes-Christian-conservative-Norwegians. It was only a brief laugh, gallows humor I guess. We had our Timothy McVeigh, who killed so many in Oklahoma City, using the same fertilizer bombs. I wonder what on earth makes them think this is an effective political statement?????

    Daggero, what are we going to do? Every country has its nut cases, and they usually manage to operate under the radar until something terrible, like this, happens. I wish I knew what to do.

    Comment by intlxpatr | July 25, 2011 | Reply

  15. “yet we fail to even sympathize with the whole situation”?. On whose behalf are you talking ? On your name or “Muslims” in general ? With all due respect, I find it pretty pretentious from whomever you might be to generalize easily on “Muslims” feelings. Or is it that “Muslims” should take an outspoken stand condemning the killings so to prove they relate to losses of their neighbours, especially when the committed crime is related to Muslim hatred feelings? Killing one innocent soul is like killing the entire humanity and saving one soul is like saving the entire humanity in Islam. So let me just assure you that any Muslim believer sincerely feels and grieves loss of life whether it is in Norway, Pakistan or Nigeria.

    Intlxpatr, I cherish freedom in all angles too. I realized I misunderstood Mac’s comment as I did not notice the following discussions u all had. Apologies to Mac.

    Comment by Mohammed | August 1, 2011 | Reply

    • Thank you for your civility :-)

      Comment by intlxpatr | August 1, 2011 | Reply


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